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A Nuremberg Woman and a Venetian Woman: Introduction

Two women occupy almost the whole of a narrow sheet, their elaborate clothes giving them strikingly different outlines. Albrecht Dürer’s drawing belongs to the Städel Museum in Frankfurt, which dates it to about 1495. Executed in dark grey-brown pen on laid paper, it measures 245 × 159 millimetres. Within that small space, a turn of the head and a handful of shadows suggest an encounter that extends beyond the business of recording dress. [1]

The woman on the left looks towards her companion. Her body faces us more directly, while her face appears in profile; the resulting twist gives her an alert, responsive presence. The taller woman on the right holds her head at a different angle, her eyes directed away from the left figure. Their attention does not quite meet. That slight imbalance is enough to make us wonder whether one has noticed something about the other. Dürer supplies no words or identifying setting to decide the matter.

The museum identifies the left figure’s cap, bodice, apron and dress as Nuremberg clothing, and the right figure’s veil and high-waisted, low-cut gown as Venetian fashion. Geography becomes visible through the shape of a sleeve, the arrangement of cloth around a waist and the way the head is dressed. These are two specifically differentiated figures, although the familiar English title Venetian Women can obscure the distinction. [1]

At a Glance

  • Date About 1495 [1]
  • Materials Dark grey-brown pen on laid paper [1]
  • Collection Städel Museum, Frankfurt [1]

This work across Albrecht Dürer’s career

Contents

  1. Clothes that shape a figure
  2. The work of the pen
  3. How the pair came together
  4. A related Venetian study
  5. Frequently Asked Questions

Clothes that shape a figure

The Nuremberg woman’s headdress rises behind her head in a rounded, tapering form. Its intersecting lines establish a structure quite unlike the fine, sloping veil of the Venetian. Below it, the left woman’s fitted bodice creates a narrow middle, reinforced by dense horizontal and crossing strokes. Her sleeves bend with her arms. Gathering fabric across the front of her body, she brings several directions together at her waist: the slope of her forearms, the descending apron and the heavier folds of the skirt.

Follow those folds downwards and the apparent simplicity of her dress disappears. A light, looped sweep crosses the front, while a dark triangular mass opens to the right. Further down, an elongated fold cuts diagonally towards the exposed shoe. The garment records the effects of lifting, pulling and taking a step. Its curves and pointed ends provide a changing contour from shoulder to hem. The small projecting foot at the bottom gives this cascade of cloth a direction of movement.

The Venetian woman presents a longer, more continuous front. A band beneath her bust gathers the skirt, from which thin lines descend almost to the ground. The two circular ornaments along its centre interrupt that downward flow without breaking it. The broad neckline, necklace and elaborate sleeves concentrate detail in the upper part of the figure. Below them, long stretches of lightly marked paper remain open. Her dress seems to occupy space through its height and breadth, while the Nuremberg costume makes its volume felt through overlapping folds.

Both women carry gathered cloth, an easily overlooked similarity. At the Venetian’s right arm, towards the centre of the sheet, fabric drops into a deep, rounded pouch of folds. Her other hand rests lower against the skirt. The Nuremberg woman gathers her clothing closer to her middle, with both forearms engaged. Dürer thus varies the practical action of managing a long garment. We see dress as something handled and worn, with consequences for gesture, as well as something displayed.

The difference between the figures also depends on their placement. The Venetian stands closer to the lower edge and reaches higher into the empty space. The Nuremberg woman is smaller and set back, leaving a narrow pocket of blank paper between their heads. Their garments nearly touch in the middle, but their silhouettes remain legible. This arrangement invites comparison without requiring them to face each other like partners in a formal dialogue.

The work of the pen

The dark area beside the Nuremberg woman’s waist is among the drawing’s strongest accents. Lines cross and accumulate until a shaded fold becomes almost a solid mass. Nearby, a lighter surface can be established by a few long strokes. Dürer changes the density and direction of his marks as the cloth changes direction. The eye moves between sharp edges, curved hatching and relatively empty areas, discovering the garment’s construction through those changes.

The Venetian’s skirt offers a different pleasure. Its long lines are unevenly spaced and gently inflected; some extend nearly the full length of the garment, while others stop or divide. They give the hanging cloth a rhythm without enclosing every fold. At the outer right, darker shading helps the broad front turn into depth. Above, the sleeves break into small patterned compartments, loops and bulges. The same pen can describe a tiny ornament and then travel down the length of a skirt in one extended movement.

Near the women’s feet, a few curved, roughly horizontal lines turn the untouched sheet into a ground. The dark patch between the figures helps separate their positions. These marks provide enough support for their bodies without becoming paving, a garden path or a recognisable street. The absence of a developed background keeps every visual decision close to the figures: where they stand, how they turn and how their clothes occupy the available space. Their apparent ease emerges from a carefully organised distribution of detail and emptiness.

How the pair came together

The Städel links the drawing to no painting. It interprets the pairing as Dürer’s invention, with the Nuremberg woman added beside a Venetian drawn first. It also proposes a playful edge to the sideways glance. That reading brings the little scene to life, but the drawing leaves room for a quieter response: curiosity, comparison or simple awareness of another person nearby. The left woman’s finely articulated profile holds our interest even when we resist assigning her a definite thought. [1]

Scholars have long debated the drawing sequence. In 1931 Eduard Flechsig argued that the Venetian was drawn first and the Nuremberg woman later, pointing to differences in scale, lighting and ground shadows. He nevertheless placed both figures in 1495 and saw the addition as a way of making the difference between the costumes clear. In 1936 Friedrich Winkler rejected the proposed interval between them: the matching tone of the ink led him to argue that the second figure followed immediately. He also noted that the Nuremberg woman’s right arm had initially been planned lower. [12] [13]

These observations direct attention back to the physical act of drawing. A changed arm position can alter the whole rhythm of a figure, bringing a hand into a more effective relationship with the gathered skirt. Matching ink colour, however, is an observation about appearance; Winkler’s argument does not establish a chemically verified interval between sittings. The finished relationship is easier to see than the time that elapsed while it was made. What matters most to the viewer is the way two differently conceived figures now share a small area of ground.

A separate sheet in Vienna’s ALBERTINA, dated 1495, makes a useful comparison. Its front shows a richly dressed Venetian woman with a smaller rear view beside her; the reverse studies the lower body and includes a separate shoe. In the large front view, the ornamented sleeves, high gathering of the gown and long hanging folds recall the Städel figure. The Vienna sheet gives those details considerably more room. Its conspicuous patterned undergarment and denser modelling also create a different effect from the comparatively open front of the Frankfurt dress. [14] [15]

The small rear view in Vienna is particularly revealing. Seen from behind, the same general kind of costume becomes a system of long folds, crossed bands and gathered cloth. On the reverse, the isolated shoe allows attention to move away from the complete figure and towards an object that helps construct her appearance. Together, these views show how much can be learned by changing the distance and angle of observation. The Städel drawing brings that attention to clothing into a composition organised around two people.

Dress does not securely disclose the Venetian woman’s personal identity or profession. Discussing the Vienna study, costume historian Jutta Zander-Seidel traces its changing labels, from a German noblewoman to a Venetian courtesan. She warns against treating descriptions in Cesare Vecellio’s costume book of 1590 as a reliable key to Dürer’s drawing of almost a century earlier. The history is a useful caution here too: a low neckline or an elaborate hairstyle cannot, by itself, turn the Städel figure into a documented courtesan. The richness of the costume gives us much to look at; a name and a social biography remain beyond what the sheet establishes. [14]

Stephanie Leitch places the Frankfurt drawing within a broader history of cultural encounters expressed through dress. In her account, the pair offers an ironic version of meetings familiar in a trading city such as Venice, where clothing helped people recognise differences within an international population. This approach gives the costumes a social setting without inventing a particular morning’s walk. The drawing’s intimacy can coexist with a larger question: how do people see, compare and respond to unfamiliar appearances? [16]

Later viewers supplied identities of their own. The museum records a Dutch inscription on the reverse naming Ada, Countess of Holland, with her mother Adelheid. It also identifies the AD at the top as another hand’s addition and records the drawing’s acquisition in 1847. These traces belong to the sheet’s subsequent history. The two women in the drawing remain unnamed, their relationship poised between an artist’s comparison of regional dress and the fleeting human interest of one person looking towards another. [1]

Frequently Asked Questions

When was it made?

About 1495 [1]

What materials or techniques were used?

Dark grey-brown pen on laid paper [1]

Which collection is the work associated with?

Städel Museum, Frankfurt [1]

Artworks directory

These 187 records include individual works, reverse sides, detail views, paired panels and reconstructed arrangements. Three additional catalogue images repeat works already listed. Related views are not counted as separate originals; qualified attributions and published dating are retained.

187 records

NameDateMedium
A Greyhoundc. 1500–1501Drawing
A Hare Bearing the Date 1528 (Hans Hoffmann)c. 1580–1585Drawing
A Lion, 14941494Drawing
A Nuremberg Woman and a Venetian Womanc. 1495Drawing
Adam and Eve: Dürer’s Engraving of 15041504Engraving
Adoration of the Wise Men (1524 drawing)1524Drawing
Albrecht Dürer’s Self-Portrait of 15001500Painting
Allegory of Avarice1507Painting
Alliance Coat of Arms1490Painting
An Eastern Ruler Seated on His Thronec. 1495Drawing
Angel Appearing to Joachimc. 1504Woodcut
Apollo and Dianac. 1503–1505Engraving
Apostles Philip and James, paired paintings1516Painting
Bacchanal with Silenus (after Mantegna)1494Drawing
Bat (formerly attributed to Dürer)c. 1600Drawing
Bearded Saint in a Forest: Grünewald’s Proposed Mosesc. 1516Drawing
Bird in Three ViewsDate uncertainDrawing
Bird with Outstretched Wings (Draft for a Book Sign: Crane)Inscribed 1513Drawing
Blue-Flowering Iris1508Drawing
Charlemagne: The Costume Study1510Drawing
Christ and the Disciples at Emmausc. 1510Woodcut
Christ Bearing the Cross (Small Passion)1509Woodcut
Christ before Pilate (Small Passion)c. 1508–1509Woodcut
Christ Being Nailed to the Cross (Small Passion)c. 1509Woodcut
Christ Carrying the Cross (Engraved Passion)1512Engraving
Christ Crowned with Thorns (Engraved Passion)1512Engraving
Christ on the Mount of Olives (Large Passion)c. 1496–1497Woodcut
Christ Shown to the People (Small Passion)c. 1509Woodcut
Christ Taken Captive (Large Passion)1510Woodcut
Christ Taking Leave of His Mother (Life of the Virgin)c. 1504–1505Woodcut
Christ’s Entry into Jerusalem (Small Passion)c. 1508–1509Woodcut
City of Trento from the North1495; date debatedDrawing
Crab (formerly attributed to Dürer)c. 1494–1495; attribution withdrawnDrawing
Dead Blue Rollerc. 1500Drawing
Design for a Goblet1495–1500Drawing
Dosso di Trento (Trintperg)1495 or 1496Drawing
Dresden Altarpiece, with qualified wing attributionc. 1496Painting
Dürer’s Adam and Eve, 15071507Painting
Dürer’s Adoration of the Magi, 15041504Painting
Dürer’s All Saints: the Landauer Altarpiece1511Painting
Dürer’s Christ Among the Doctors1506Painting
Dürer’s Feast of the Rosary1506Painting
Dürer’s Four Apostles1526Painting
Dürer’s Heller Altarpiece1507–1509Painting
Dürer’s Nemesis (The Great Fortune)c. 1501–1502Engraving
Dürer’s Prodigal Sonc. 1496Engraving
Dürer’s Rhinoceros1515Woodcut
Dürer’s Salvator Mundic. 1505Painting
Dürer’s Sea Monsterc. 1498Engraving
Emperor Maximilian I, Nuremberg canvas1519Painting
Emperors Charlemagne and Sigismundc. 1511–1513Painting
Expulsion from Paradise (Small Passion)1510Woodcut
Flagellation (Small Passion)c. 1509Woodcut
Four Naked Women1497Engraving
Girl from Cologne and Agnes Dürer1521Drawing
Glim Lamentationc. 1500Painting
Great Piece of Turf1503Drawing
Hands Holding a Book1506Drawing
Head of a Roebuckc. 1502–1503Drawing
Head of an Apostle Looking Downward1508Drawing
Head of an Apostle Looking Upward1508Drawing
Head of the Dead Christ1503Drawing
Heavenly Body in the Night Skyc. 1496Painting
Hercules at the Crossroadsc. 1498Engraving
Heron (Garza)1515Drawing
Hymn in Adoration of the Lambc. 1496–1497Woodcut
Innsbruck Seen from the Northc. 1495; dating debatedDrawing
Innsbruck: The Hofburg and Wappenturm (Detail)c. 1495; detailDrawing
Iris Troianac. 1503; attributedDrawing
Jabach Altarpiece, paired outer wingsc. 1503–05Painting
Knight on HorsebackDate not securely establishedDrawing
Knight, Death and the Devil1513Engraving
Lamentation from the Large Passionc. 1498–1499Woodcut
Laughing Peasant Woman1505Drawing
Little Owl Attributed to Dürer1502 or 1508 (?)Drawing
Lobster1495Drawing
Lot and His Daughters, reverse of the Haller Madonnac. 1496–99Painting
Lute-playing Angel1497Drawing
Madonna and Child with the Pear, 15261526Painting
Madonna of the Carnation1516Painting
Madonna of the Pear, 15121512Painting
Madonna with the Swaddled Infant1520Engraving
Man of Sorrowsc. 1492–1493Painting
Map of the Northern Sky1515Woodcut
Map of the Southern Sky1515Woodcut
Martagon LilyMiddle to late sixteenth centuryDrawing
Martyrdom of the Ten Thousand1508Painting
Melencolia I1514Engraving
Monkey: an Escorial Animal StudyDate uncertainDrawing
Nativity1504Engraving
Nutcracker: the Louvre Bird StudyExecution date not establishedDrawing
ParrotExecution date not establishedDrawing
Paumgartner Altarpiecec. 1500Painting
Penance of Saint John Chrysostomc. 1497Engraving
Piper and Drummer from the Jabach Altarpiecec. 1503–1504Painting
Portrait of a Clergyman (Johann Dorsch?)1516Painting
Portrait of a Girl with a Red Beret1507Painting
Portrait of a Man Aged Ninety-Three1521Drawing
Portrait of a Man with Beret and Scroll1521Painting
Portrait of a Man, Kisters collectionPublished as 1497; current dating unverifiedPainting
Portrait of a Young Man, 15081508Drawing
Portrait of a Young Venetian Woman1505Painting
Portrait of a Young Woman with Her Hair Down1497Painting
Portrait of Barbara Dürer1490Painting
Portrait of Bernhard von Reesen1521Painting
Portrait of Burkhard von Speyer1506Painting
Portrait of Dürer’s Father at SeventyPossibly later sixteenth centuryPainting
Portrait of Elsbeth Tucher1499Painting
Portrait of Emperor Maximilian I1519Painting
Portrait of Hans Tucher1499Painting
Portrait of Hieronymus Holzschuher1526Painting
Portrait of Jakob Fugger the Wealthyc. 1520Painting
Portrait of Jakob Muffel1526Painting
Portrait of Johannes Kleberger1526Painting
Portrait of Lucas Cranach the Elderc. 1524Drawing
Portrait of Michael Wolgemut1516Painting
Portrait of Oswolt Krel1499Painting
Portrait of the Artist’s Father 14901490Painting
Portrait of the Artist’s Mother 15141514Drawing
Praying Hands1508Drawing
Primula (Tuft of Cowslips)Dating disputed; later 1526 inscriptionDrawing
Rhinoceros (Pen and Ink)1515Drawing
Saint Anthony1519Engraving
Saint Eustacec. 1501Engraving
Saint George on Horseback1508Engraving
Saint Jerome in His Study, 1514,1514Engraving
Saint Jerome in the WildernessMid-1490sPainting
Saint Jerome, 1521: Dürer’s Lisbon Painting1521Painting
Saint John’s Churchc. 1494Drawing
Self-Portrait 14981498Painting
Self-Portrait at Thirteen1484Drawing
Self-Portrait Holding a Thistle 14931493Painting
Seven Sorrows of the Virgin, reconstructed arrangementc. 1495–98Painting
Sketch of a Table Fountain1495–1500Drawing
Small Horse1505Engraving
St John Eating the Book1497–1498Woodcut
Stag Beetle1505Drawing
Standing Apostle (Study of a Man in Drapery)1508Drawing
Studies of Dürer’s Left Hand1493/1494Drawing
Study of a Man with a Drillc. 1495–1497Drawing
Study of Christ’s Upper Body1508Drawing
Study of Drapery for Christ in the Heller Altarpiece1508Drawing
Study of the Feet of an Apostlec. 1508Drawing
The Conversion of Paul (formerly attributed to Dürer)After 1500Engraving
The Crucifixion (1508 engraving)1508Engraving
The Crucifixion (Large Passion woodcut)c. 1498Woodcut
The Fall (Small Passion)c. 1509–1510Woodcut
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse1498Woodcut
The Haller Madonnac. 1496–1499Painting
The Holzschuher Lamentationc. 1499–1500 or 1506–1507Painting
The Innsbruck Castle Courtyard with Cloudsc. 1495Drawing
The Innsbruck Castle Courtyard without Cloudsc. 1495Drawing
The Landauer Altarpiece Frame1511Sculpture
The Large Horse1505Engraving
The Last Judgement from the Small Passionc. 1510Woodcut
The Last Supper from the Large Passion1510Woodcut
The Lionc. 1495–1500 (?)Drawing
The Madonna with the IrisPossibly 1503–1508Painting
The Martyrdom of Saint Johnc. 1496–1498Woodcut
The Mass of the Angels (attributed to Dürer)c. 1500Drawing
The Meeting of Joachim and Anne at the Golden Gate1504Woodcut
The Mocking of Christ from the Small Passionc. 1508Woodcut
The Opening of the Seventh Seal and the Eagle Crying Woec. 1496–1498Woodcut
The Small Piece of Turf (Tuft of Grass: Minor)c. 1495–1500 (?)Drawing
The Storkc. 1500–1505Drawing
The Suicide of Lucretia1518Painting
The Virgin and Child with an Angel Playing the ViolProbably 1519Drawing
The Virgin and Child with Saint AnneProbably 1519Painting
The Virgin Nursing the Child1512Drawing
The Wire-Drawing Mill1489–1494Drawing
The Wire-Drawing Mill: Mill Buildings (Detail)1489–1494; detailDrawing
The Wire-Drawing Mill: River and Hallerwiese (Detail)1489–1494; detailDrawing
Three Studies of a Helmetc. 1498–1500Drawing
Title Page for Life of the Virginc. 1511Woodcut
Title Page of Small Passionc. 1511Woodcut
Title Page of the Large Passionc. 1511Woodcut
Tucher and Rieter coats of arms, reverse of Hans Tucher1499Painting
Two Seated Lions1521Drawing
Two Squirrels by Hans HoffmannExecution date not establishedDrawing
Valley near Kalchreuthc. 1495–1500Drawing
View of KalchreuthDate discussed in articleDrawing
View of NurembergMid-1490s or c. 1519; disputedDrawing
View of the Arco Valley in the Tyrolc. 1495Drawing
Walrus1521Drawing
Wing of a Blue Rollerc. 1500Drawing
Young Bullc. 1496Drawing
Young Hare1502Drawing

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References

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  2. ALBERTINA, Selbstbildnis als Dreizehnjähriger, inv. 4839 (German). View source.
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